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Win2Day.be is a fully licensed casino and poker site exclusively for Belgium players. The site is the online arm of Grand Casino Brussels, as it is operated by Casinos Austria International Holdings, who own the Grand Casino. Win2Day.at was originally launched in Austria in 1998 and has become a very popular gambling site.
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- Upon the news, poker players flocked to poker forums. And Win2Day, owned by Austrian Lotteries and Casinos Austria, where the former would provide poker platform services to the latter could.
Every (non-beginner) poker-player is complaining about rake and is chasing good rake-back-deals and perhaps even signing sponsorship-deals to minimize these costs. But wouldn't you think that if you built a rake-free Poker-site that customers would lure in like crazy? Of course, the site would need to offer all the basic games and features, should be very stable and usability should not suck. Marketing and Sales efforts would be limited to posting this information in Social Media and Forums to get the ball rolling. Right? betraiser Poker is imho all of the above.
Betraiser operates since a reasonable amount of time (on 2+2 poker forum a thread about this site has been started beginning of 2008) but it is does not seem to be looking very good for them. First, to be precise it is not of course totally free of charge – they charge 10% fee upon withdrawal (but only for winnings you have made), which is still way less than any other Poker-site out there. The forum thread on 2+2 is particularly interesting as one aspect seems to surface even amongst avid online-poker experts. Trust. Should you trust such a site? It is licensed where? On the Netherland Antilles? They have Internet there? The list of questions goes on, but one factor is of course highlighting the catch-22 of launching a new Poker-Site: They have no players? Why? And this although they are rake-free?
But now, just quickly to my review which I want to keep short as the above points really overshadow any other aspects: The site is very basic, payment does not work directly but you have to have a moneybookers or neteller account, poker-software is not on par with other major players but nothing to completely push you away from rake-free poker and a minus for us Europeans is that tournament-schedules (freerolls) are optimized for U.S. customers. But all in all a solid site, considering the volume it gets.
I'll be staying on this site (especially their freerolls and added-cash tourneys are heavily under-subscribed) and post any major findings. But I wonder how they can operate this poker-room much longer when revenues very likely have no chance of covering costs.
Marketing-guru Peter Drucker said that the purpose of a corporation is Marketing and Innovation – all the rest are costs. With regards to betraiser it seems they underestimated the importance of marketing (they perhaps believed the story will spread on its own, which is not completely unreasonable given the pricing model of the site) and it is questionable whether this new pricing model is innovation enough. Pricing can be an innovation in some instances (e.g. Google offering free point-to-point navigation, thereby making competition irrelevant) but Poker is different: The 'cost' for players is on one hand rake and on the other – and more relevant – how much they lose or win against opponents.
Nuff said. Check it out for yourself: http://www.betraiser.com
PokerStars.fr, the French-regulated client of PokerStars, announced last week to its Austrian player base that it will no longer be servicing players residing in the country starting at 10:00 ET on March 1, 2016. The notification informed Austrian players that a change in regulatory framework is the reason they will no longer be welcome to play on the French PokerStars client.
Upon the news, poker players flocked to poker forums, including TwoPlusTwo, to discuss the news along with the reasons this is taking place. The email Austrian customers received explains that players can still use their StarsCoin balances to purchase items in the VIP Store and the site will automatically convert tournament dollars and tickets into cash.
Casino avenue de toulouse montpellier sud. Here is the message players received last week:
We are writing to inform you that, due to the latest change in legal framework in Austria, starting at 10:00 ET on March 1 we will stop allowing players based in Austria to play on the PokerStars.fr site.
Your PokerStars.fr account will remain open and accessible, and your funds can be withdrawn at any time to your registered bank account. Any tournament tickets or T€ balance will automatically be converted into Euro when you visit the cashier.
You are welcome to use your StarsCoin to purchase cash rebates or any other items from the VIP Store, with the exception of online tickets. Please also be informed that your real money and StarsCoin balances cannot be transferred between accounts on different licenses.
Players speculated that the reason for the pullout could have related to a recent deal announced between Playtech, the owner of the iPoker Network, and Win2Day, owned by Austrian Lotteries and Casinos Austria, where the former would provide poker platform services to the latter could have been the reason of the pullout due to the timing. Even though Win2Day is currently the only online poker network licensed in Austria under its gaming regime, this news appears to be just coincidental and unrelated.
However, this is not believed to be likely the case, as Austrian TwoPlusTwo poster 'DebtsNBooze' shared an email PokerStars.fr support sent when asking for an explanation.
On January 1, 2016, PokerStars started paying gaming duty taxes to the Austrian Government for play on PokerStars.FR by players who had a registered address in Austria.
This additional tax was in addition to the tax that PokerStars was already paying to the French government for play by all players on PokerStars.FR.
It was unsustainable for PokerStars to pay double tax – to both the Austrian and French Governments – for play by Austrians on PokerStars.fr. Consequently, we have little choice, and need to stop allowing players with a registered address in Austria to play on PokerStars.fr.
Please note this is only for Austian players.
We appreciate your understanding.
The double taxation issue is a sticky one. Due to French regulations, online poker operators are taxed approximately 37 percent on gross gaming revenues. The large tax already puts a significant dent into the profit margins for any online poker company providing regulated services under a French license.
Austria, who does not exempt online gaming from the EU VAT Directive levies a large 20-percent tax on all gaming transactions. It is therefore logical that PokerStars.fr came to the decision to discontinue services to Austrian residents.
This isn't the first time PokerStars.fr pull out of a gaming market due to double taxation. In December 2014, the United Kingdom began enforcing the United Kingdom Gambling (Licensing and Advertising) Act 2014 which includes a 15 percent Point of Consumption Tax to online gaming companies.
PokerStars.fr informed players in the United Kingdom in September 2014 its plans to pull out of the market ahead of the schedule plans being enforced.
Stay tuned to PokerNews for more news as it happens in the Austrian gaming marketplace.
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